Pear, 10 Mar 2015We are all deflecting it. WPear , if you work in a phone shop , than you should praise all the phones , after all it doesnt matter what you sell it matters to sell as much as possible , if you really work in a phone shop you are a terrible seller , for a seller all expensive flagship phones are the best , and if a user wants a iphone why the hell would you sell him a g3? you make less money! Sell him that iphone and accesories and everything he can use with the phone , hah i cannot belive this , salesman , i wounder that you still have a job.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2015you don't speak for all consumers.
The reason why I have an iphone6 is becaues I know it wi... moreIt won't last mate. No other phone breaks so easily, the fact that apple brainwash you by replacing it should make you think why the phone broke down in the first place, rather than the fact that you walked out of the Apple store with a new phone.
And it's fun deflecting it. We all do in this shop, and guess what, loads of customers have thanked us for it...PC Advisor's Best Smartphones of 2015 is constantly on our computers. And we have a game where we guess what brand one likes when they come through the door...i usually get it 95% of the time right.
In this shop, about 10% of the contracts we do are iphones, yet easily over 50% of the issue related phone calls we get come from the ones that bought iphones...
And 3 years? I had a Galaxy Ace 2 before my LG G3 for 3 years...it worked fantastic, quite slow and not super intuitive, but it never broke down. It was £120 when i bought it almost 4 years ago and i still sold it for £50 on amazon for somebody else to use probably for another 2-3 years...and guess what, never used a case for it or a screen protector.
Whereas all iphone users tend to love how their ugly device looks like, yet they always cover it with some even uglier plastic case with bieber, one direction, jesus or unicorns on it...
Pear, 09 Mar 2015With all due respect, it is so easy to notice the generic iphone and flagship android buyer.
... moreyou don't speak for all consumers.
The reason why I have an iphone6 is becaues I know it will last more then 3 years.
The company itself have a very good reputation of helping their customers.
The quality of the phone is also very good. Totally aware that android does have some have some nice features, but to me it's a phone. nothing more, I'm not a nerd, nor a geek. I need a phone of perfection and the iphone6 delivers. It will work for a long time, and I am also aware of androids downfalls such as lollipop not working well on certain phones in manufacturered in 2014. You say you work at a store, and we find it b.s that you are actually grouping iphone and android users. fyi, my first phone was an iphone it was a gift.
now pls stop posting. Your not achieving anything. If your trying to deflect sales, you will fail. you will fail badly.
Anonymous, 28 Feb 2015He's comparing what he has, and the better of the two in his opinion. You are comparing the... moreI agree with you bro..I am currently using iphone 6 with 64gb. I am very satisfy with the performance and so far no disspoint me.. My colleague always say " i phone is stand for idot phone" that time I was using i phone 4. Its really slow and laggy as old technology with support ios7. But recently he bought a Huawei mate 7 (flagship phone) and challenge the speed of opening an same apps like "waze and google map" unfortunately the so call "octa core" lost with "dual core" of an i phone...what a shame on "so call octa core" moral of the story dont judge the book by its cover..the on paper spec sometime is bullshit one...
Anonymous, 09 Mar 2015What you might see as trivial may not be to others.
I am not going to judge that 3 buttons ... moreWhat are you talking about?
Is Apple paying you to say this things?
There seems to be this general consensus amongst iphone fans that their phones are easier to use. They are not! I find it most frustrating that they don't even have the home and back button next to one another, they're on the opposite side of the screen. If i search for something on Youtube and then want to reply to my friend on Whats App, i need to leave Youtbe and reply, can't do both at the same time, whilst letting the video run in the background. The list could go on.
I have recently been persuaded to buy an iphone 6. I used an iphone 4s in the past and whilst it was ok, I found it incredibly dull, difficult and restrictive - i remember having to rename all the songs in my library, having to stick to their browser and player, etc.
Then I had a Samsung S4, which i didn't really like a lot, but it was easily better and more innovative than the 4s. After that I had an HTC M8 which was absolutely fantastic in every regard. And now i thought i would give iphones another chance, because i went after word of mouth instead of trusting the reviews (which were more like 'meh, nothing special, let's move on').
IT'S THE SAME AS IPHONE 4S!! Just a bit bigger. Nothing has changed! How can a company bank on the same phone 5 years in a row?
Look at Zedge! It's so fun to have your phone's ringtone by the Girls, Game of Thrones or Terminator tune. For free! It's so difficult to do the same stuff on iphones. they are so restrictive it is doing my head in that people actually pay money for this phone.
Let's do an imagination excercise: An alien race lands on earth and we explain to them the concept of smartphones. We then hand them this phone that runs fairly decent and does what we explained. The we give them this other phone that does exactly the same but allows the wee alien to change things about, to get rid of apps he will never use, to do 2 things at the same time, to download as much music, ringtones for free and assure him that if the phone drops in a puddle it will actually survive the drop and the water. Which phone will he choose?
This guy Anonymous is so off the mark, it's funny. People don't buy iphones because they are reliable or simple to use - Pear is right - you maybe have 20% who do, the fans, who you can give the exact same terrible phone year after year and they flock to it...but most people buy it for the brand, because they heard from someone that without an iphone you won't get recognized, etc...
It really is that sad...i empathize with what Pear is saying. At my daughter's school you are a nobody without an iphone...it has gotten to that stage...she got lucky now, she will probably have mine for her birthday, whilst i will go back to a phone that lasts longer than 80 minutes when you watch an HD video.
Meladyx, 09 Mar 2015But by your logic the only thing that makes an android phone 'too complicated' as implied is t... moreWhat you might see as trivial may not be to others.
I am not going to judge that 3 buttons of Android or putting shortcuts on the launch screen or opening the app drawer, because its gonna drag too long. But needless to say its not easy to manage for first timers. Just look at most android phone users out there, most of the time you see the default wallpaper, some do not even know how to drag shortcuts to their launcher screen.
Thats why you see Samsung, trying so hard to customise touchwiz, making simple mode of the launcher.
Even Pear's comment you can see it, people are amaze of Android's different capabilities, wow! you can do this, do that. But ultimately were they sold? No. Why? Because people DO not really care about whats technology geeks, they just want something that they know how to use and are comfortable to use, and like Pear say, the looks of the phone.
For people like ourselves, who are fortunate to have tried all kinds of phones, used PC / Mac before, use internet, surely find Android as easy as iOS. And because of those old legacy hardware/software we are affected by drag and drop.. bt transfer.. old ways of doing things.
But for most people, this ease of iOS make it the most desired phone despite its price. While Android, it can only compete with lower price and people who buy it would use iPhone if they choose.
Anonymous, 09 Mar 2015The behaviour of the customers who come into your shop have nothing to do with the phone.
I... moreBut by your logic the only thing that makes an android phone 'too complicated' as implied is the fact that they have three buttons instead of one.
On a Android you can also mash an icon and the app opens. Imagine that?
You can also press the home button and then go to another app, just like you said you can do with an iPhone!
But seriously, comparing the functionality and complications of cell phones to rocket science is a waste of time.
Now Samsung is manufacturing metal phones with glass on both sides!
Hello Sammy we are in 2015 !
I like my iPhone 6 - 64 GB ..
Its much better than any Android device
Pear, 09 Mar 2015To give you a representative example of what i wrote before, last week, we had 3 girls around ... moreThe behaviour of the customers who come into your shop have nothing to do with the phone.
In fact what you see is the true testament of iPhone. Its ability to work and use by people of any age / any knowledge about technology shows its success.
The money you give is actually all the R&D and careful though put into this device, to make it user friendly, quality, performance and beauty. Its more then just specs, like those invested by android phone makers.
In the end, technology should be transparent to the user, user do not need to be rocket scientist. Look at iPhone, its design is very simple and its approach is as such, Want Youtube? Mash the youtube button. Want to go home? Mash the single button on the device. It only provide the complex features on if want basis, "double click home button" brings up multi-task, which is not needed if you do not want. etc. You can always mash the home button.. then select another task.
Sta-ko, 09 Mar 2015Another medium here.. (why anonymous again you know who) l did have iPhone 5s for a while . ... moreYour action does not show you are educated in technology. It simply shows you need money.
Can't believe an "Anonymous", a Apple fanboy can be so smart? I simply do not like to login, or feel a need to enter a nickname. Thats all. Anyway you can see who it is by looking at the 4 digits below each comment.. it uniquely id your location.
Evon, 09 Mar 2015I am planning to switch from Samsung Note 3 to iphone 6, is it really worth it. I am confused.... moreRead all posts and disite.. I advise you don't, but if it's not a financial issue go and try.. .
I am planning to switch from Samsung Note 3 to iphone 6, is it really worth it. I am confused.This will be my first experience with IOS.
Anonymous, 09 Mar 2015"I have paid less than you and have better cellular device" The statement above p... moreAnother medium here.. (why anonymous again you know who) l did have iPhone 5s for a while . I didn't buy it, becouse I considered my self above everage educated about technology, it was a present. Use it for a mount and some and sold it. People who gave the name for rooting the iPhone software did a boolseye - JAILBREAK, not to mention how boring it was. I bought Asus Zenfone 5 for 1/4 of the money and made huge present back.. And had money left.The Asus is atliast fast and smooth as IP5 with bigger nicer display 2 sim cards and 4 times cheaper.
To give you a representative example of what i wrote before, last week, we had 3 girls around 14 in our shop looking at the iphone 6 (99% of girls 12-18 are only interested in iphones) and i started showing them my LG G3 and they were genuinely incredibly impressed when they saw that they were able to take a selfie without touching the screen with my phone. One even said "why does the iphone not do that?" I replied "there are many cool things an iphone can't do". After approximately 20 seconds, one of the girls whispered to the other girls "Natalie and John both have it, they would laugh in our face if we don't get iphones". Those were the exact words, no exageration...
That shows exactly how a large majority of people buy these phones. Whoever thinks people buy them because they are great are sadly mistaken. Yes, there are maybe 20-30% of people who genuinly think the iphones are god's gift to technology. But the largest majority have been convinced by an extensive and smart marketing campaign that you are not complete if you don't have an iphone and they don't even bother researching or looking at other phones.
It's quite sad. That's all. But, oh well, it pays my rent x
With all due respect, it is so easy to notice the generic iphone and flagship android buyer.
The iphone buyer is usually attracted to shiny stuff and doesn't really care about innovation or progress. They rather have buy into consumerism and are deceivingly happy when they pay $600 for a $100 phone, because they managed to form a concentric circle where they are all patting each other on the back because they have a personality-devoid and relatively functional device that is highly appreciated for its social stance, rather than for quality or technological innovation.
The flagship Android buyer is usually more educated and introspective. He/she tends to question what they want from a smartphone, how a device like this can help their existence and whether it's worth paying over $500 or over for it. He/she want to buy because they like putting a little of their own personality in their phone and they prefer the freedom of apps/internet/software permissibility.
This is no way meant to be insulting. I invite anybody to work in a phoneshop for a week and you will notice these trends. Of course it is not without exceptions. You do get the opposite for both groups, but a large majority can be described as above.
(I hope gsmarena won't take my post down, because they deem the term "uneducated" as insulting...nothing wrong or demeaning about being non-educated)
Sta-ko, 08 Mar 2015You must be medium knowing what I have tried and what I haven't .. One is sure thou, I ha... more"I have paid less than you and have better cellular device"
The statement above prove you have not tried most of the phones out there, you just bought one cheap android phone and is in denial and feel sour grapes.
Believe the people here for once, they spent good money on a good iPhone.
Kunjumon, 08 Mar 2015I am sure that you Don't touched any iOS device until now.good .Then what are you doing here.You must be medium knowing what I have tried and what I haven't .. One is sure thou, I have paid less than you and have better cellular device ;-).