Lol my tablet from 2 years ago that I got for $350 (Xperia Z3 Tablet) already had 3gb of ram. Apple products are a joke and their sheeps deserve to be scammed in the way apple scams them.
Dr. Danger, 23 Mar 2016It may be good for social dogs but not for hardcore gamers.Not sure what you are saying?
With regards to my PC?
Or mobile graphics power?
Games can be fun, no matter the platform.
Pac man and space invaders didn't have 'fab graphics'!
Snake on a Nokia 5110 shouldn't have existed, but 'alrighty then'!
My PC- Dude- you have no idea. My last five year old rig (prior to upgrade) spat out 80 frames per second in ultra details for battlefield hardline.
It ran dragon age inquisition at 45fps (ultra), and that was the only game with sub 60fps.
Presently I run witcher 3 ultra with hair works(animals and Geralt)
BAttlefront, again >80fps ultra
But a fun old school title like 'dragons dogma'?
Generally in 3D fully maxed. (I use a Sony HMZ-t3w for some games, like Dirt Rally, on a G27)
I have a slew of Razer products for input/control (including the nunchuck controllers that came with a 3D controller enhanced 'portal 2' (which lets face it; will run on ultra on a low spec machine and is an exceptionally fun game)).
I have dual SSDs, use one of them to cache my platter/mechanical storage, have 4Tb of lossless music (mostly my own rips of 1000s out of my CD collection),.. Play through an ASUS Essense STX sound card: digital out to a surround amp for games, two channel out to a Rotel power amp for music (this is the 'b' grade stereo in the house mind you- but I won't brag about the lounge room setup or this diatribe will get lengthy).
I use a Motorola phone as a status monitor, and the Logitech g15s screen for media info.
My monitor, sure it isn't 4K, but it is one of the fastest, colour accurate screens on the planet.
That is my gaming setup.
Also use the wireless Xbox 360 dongle for the kids to play Ark or Skyrim (>100fps ultra and sixty mods for a very realistic world eg rolling rain clouds over fields in front of me, ugrids=11, detail to the horizon)
The g27 sits in a race chair, and with the headset, race games are outstanding..
So hang on.. If I dropped $2000 more on a setup, what would I get?
My storage speed would have no bottleneck at 1000MB per second (hang on, does it bottleneck now?, no!)
My monitor might become 4K and I would choose the requisite setup to power it.
Probably wouldn't go three screen gaming as the headset is way more immersive. And for desktop publishing / multi monitor , there is a rig in my workroom (running off a five year old laptop;i7 820) that has monitors in portraiture and a really big colour accurate 'landscape orientated' screen. (Also hooked up to projector and surround sound, but hey who cares...)
I couldn't upgrade anything that would add one iota of gameplay.
If I wanted extra frames per second in the witcher, I would drop a setting or turn off hair works on animals. If I wanted to max out my monitors refresh rate I could turn off antialiasing in battlefield, and lower an insignificant setting.
But I enjoy everything in ultra, so why lower anything... It all runs smooth
People who buy cutting edge/top of the line do so for some breathing space until they need to do so again. They usually endure all sorts of teething bugs in the process. (Like discovering that the cable that connects their 4K monitor only does so at 30hz).
I managed my first IT (computer sales) business back in 1993.
In primary school I helped the teacher teach computers.
My mother bought the first Mac the first week it came out. I grew up in a house with Atari ST, PC and Apple. (I envied Amigas)
I go where the best bang for buck is, to achieve the best setup possible.
Sure I make compromises. Eg my main work machine runs usb2 only.
It doesn't end my world. I just sit on the porch sipping my drink, pondering the day ahead, or I do something else, like housework whilst terabytes of media copies...
Tech is to help us in our goals.
For some people this is being social. Maybe Facebook and a messenger app is what they seek from their target platform.
Myself, as a fix it person; I use it to help me research and to do very specific tasks.
For myself as a consumer, it beams presto to the chrome cast, converts music files to other formats in batch, and mostly my enjoyment is in digital photography (where my real passion lies, even more than hifi sound, and way more entertaining that computers (0s and 1s are not entertaining).
Post processing/digital darkroom for pictures and videos. That is something that I enjoy using computers for. And for all the Wacoms in the house, on pro desktop setups, the Apple iPad Pro and Pencil poop all over them. Everything is just easy and works.
Unless you meant I am missing out with regards to mobile gaming?
I have a Vita, and a 3DS, both Android and iOS platforms>. Hardware controls for the win!
Android being such an open platform and Qualcomm /Samsung video drivers being crap; Baldurs Gate is missing water textures and was a waste of money. Everyone blames everyone else, but it is the user, me, that suffers from a very poor marriage of top tier hardware running suboptimal software. Android shows that a phone isn't the sum of all its parts. It can be coaxed into getting the job done, and so it becomes my 'infield' tool of choice.
So that is something about me! Just that you seemed to know me, but I am pretty sure you had no idea on my experience.
Thank you to any who read through that. It is my first completely pointless post on GSM. Maybe second. Fun times.
AnonD-72731, 23 Mar 2016please see the comparison of s7 and 6s :)IOS, at least for now, is just an app launcher, no widgets and flexibilities that you get on android! How in the world are you praising them for their smoothness! On my z3 compact smart phone I have email, google keep, weather, and some other widgets! It is obvious if my OS does not support live widget it requires less ram and is smoother!!!! This is a shortcoming and not a place to praise! Please get it!
look at memory problems with Ipad air (1GB ram). I bought my galaxy note p605 in the same period and it has 3GB:
AnonD-443545, 23 Mar 20162GB is more than enough for iOS...Not enough for multitasking that they heavily push.
2GB is enough for a phone, not a tablet ... no matter the OS.
AnonD-443545, 23 Mar 20162GB is more than enough for iOS...Maybe for iOS 9.
What about iOS 10 or 11 ?
And what about Procreate or other big drawing/editing software ?
Shame on apple, I am paying for an iPad Pro, the same thing with the same specs just with a smaller display, I don't want a half iPad Pro, this is disappointing...
I was about to get it, but now that I know the true, no more...
Pls if someone is phone repairer how can he flashes ROMs with this media device ....Hmmmmh.. be careful before apple brake ur business
AnonD-442781, 23 Mar 2016The 6s doesn't perform better than the s7 lol.please see the comparison of s7 and 6s :)
abc, 23 Mar 2016so? i know it is smoother than 4gig ram droid. but for what? it's just a facebook machine. no... moreahmm.. from what i'd seen from the promotional video, you can use the ipad for ms word and excel in the same time? am i wrong? :O
AnonD-500788, 23 Mar 2016How can ut replace a five year old pc, in what way? No usb ports, can't run exe, etc, pls te... moreBeing a single parent with a limited entertainment budget; I have run >5 year old tech since my daughter was born.
(SSD upgrades and the occasional second hand video card being the exception)
Five years ago we started getting sata3, and USB3.
The average computer user wouldn't miss these things, possibly the usb3 depending on how they consume media....
If anything, I find that I can finally max out my equipment.
Oops, retread and got your context "how can an iPad replace a five year old PC"..
In the context of the article referenced above, the Apple spokesperson was talking about the mass market consumers, with a clear assumption that apps available on the iOS App Store can generally do what people need to get done.
The two biggest weaknesses for iOS, the consensus seems to agree upon, are 'no file system', and iTunes/usb absence (depending which pisses Ye off more).
I hate iTunes, and I feel Ineed a file system; yet Iam vastly more productive in an apple ecosystem. Never fighting with the machine to get stuff done.
iCloud and Dropbox seem the norm to get around the file system, and lightning port SD card readers etc can mitigate connections.
But, 'yes', it is generally assumed owners of iPads have access to a full flavoured PC for some tasks (USB writing, DVD/Bluray burning, firmware upgrading other tech, setting up a printer etc)
For the tasks the Apple spokesperson was referring to, iPads can do what the general user wants their 'consumption' device to handle...
jeez, 23 Mar 2016come with outdated spec.
then can get higher profit margin.
It is not outdated spec.
Every time I built a PC, I could have chosen the 'by the numbers approach' of 'bigger is better'.
Instead I would research, read tonnes of benchmarks, great articles by everyone from software engineers, games developers, through to end users and game players.
I would then have the required knowledge to understand my purchase.
This took time, which after a hard days work, I was willing to put in; hoping it would get me a better build for the same cash.
So the video card with half as much ram that ran at a higher speed, rendered much greater frames per second than the version that had too much ram. Did I say 'too much'? Yes.
The greater the ram on the video card the more juice it often needed, or it created more heat. Often the memory on the 'smaller card' could have either a wider bus, or simply ran at a faster speed.
And memory can only speed things up if you have run out of it... More memory stops you running out of space,.. But what if the present top tier parts are advertising to silly buyers who think more is better?
Sure in a couple of years time, games might use the obscene amounts, but by then I will upgrade to the newest fastest part my money will buy... Assuming the money I saved has part paid for the 'upgrade'...
Anyhow before this becomes a rant;
NOT UNDERSTANDING THE ARCHITECTURE is a great way to completely misunderstand the tech.
The A9X system on a chip; they dropped third level cache. Third level cache is vastly slower than second level cache, yet generally much faster than getting to and from ram.
With over 50Gbs of bandwidth in the A9X architecture, and a clever GPU design that happily shares these buses with the other processors, pairing in DDR4 they planned their way around certain bottlenecks.
And it works.
For such a vastly underpowered mobile part, processing three 4K videos is phenomenal.
The SoC (system on a chip) is very custom and will do custom functions very well.
Fortunately Apple know what users will want to do, and have created one of the best RISC processors on the planet (for the task at hand).
Paired up with an OS designed to scale well with any hardware architecture (OS X), the variant for iPads is iOS. Bit by bit they have added more and more of the desktop OS features to the mobile OS, whilst writing it in a way to run on the custom SoC.
For example the screen rendering in wholly handled by the GPU part. The way the internal caches are filled is very efficiently, and I wouldn't refer to the A9X as dual core, as it is highly multiprocess capable, and things like the M9 motion co processor being on chip, it runs so many custom chips, with an OS that loads them well...
That is why it delivers such amazing capabilities whilst sipping on the power.
Sure a surface tablet has longer battery life whilst docked. And yes it can do more. But most people don't want unoptimised apps on a poorly optimised hardware platform.
Yes it can run apps from years ago written for low res large screen. But on a high res small screen they look shite and interface poorly. At the end of the day; the tasks that the majority want to do can be done on both platforms, so the one that is cheaper with longer battery life wins. The fact that it appears zippier and is lighter smaller and more reliable are just bonuses.
(Don't get me wrong, a surface can do more; but my 13" pro laptop is unused since I got a tablet. My desktop might be fired up to make a usb boot disc or to burn a dvd, but otherwise the iPad suffices. : and I actually do more on it because I enjoy the form factor)
Anyhow, on topic...
For years we have been taugh by manufacturers to play the numbers game.
But we must consider architectures.
A 2Ghz i7, in single core@2Ghz, is equal to a 3Ghz core2duo, is equal to a 4ghz Pentium 4 (comparing single threaded performance).. What we see is architectural differences mean more than the numbers.
The A9X is that architectural difference.
And instead of waiting years for it to be fully utilised, the application programming interfaces (API) is established.
Developers can write for it knowing it will have market share.
In an OS that will keep it fully loaded and operating at peak.
All whilst sipping power;cause Apple engineers,doing their job correctly, know what is needed.
4Gb of ram might just encourage lazy programming, but hey; that's a different discussion!
AnonD-514012, 23 Mar 2016IOS machines are smooth with just 1gb of ram. 2gb should be more than enough.Have fun gettig robbed by apple!
jeez, 23 Mar 2016come with outdated spec.
then can get higher profit margin.
which includes any of their cellphones that still has / only just got 1920x1080p resolution screens..
don't let them tell you, the difference can not be seen. ha
stop saying my iphone work smouth with 1 ram
i pay u my money and give me all what my money worth it
yes i need 4 ram that my money i dont wait cook to tall me that i newd just 1or 2 of ram
apple had 300 billions and still suck our pocket and blood
sr777, 23 Mar 2016Guys Apple is trying to replace PCs older than 5yrs with this iPad Pro. So with all the iOS op... morereplacing pc? hahahaha... lol. lol. all tablets and phones are just a facebook machine, not more.
how do you run cad apps?
how about oracle apps? eclipse? netbeans? visual studio? vmware/virtual box?
my 5 years old core2 duo laptop can run them smoothly.