Mediatek chips are generally more powerful than Qualcomm's. They beat Qualcomm's chips in various calculations and RAM percormance, but loose in graphics. That's the problem with Mediatek is that they have the fastest CPU & RAM on the market combined with the medicore GPU. That's not so bad, because playing games on a smartphone is not practical and, honestly, moronic - that's why we have PC's or gaming consoles.
Shafittey, 30 Mar 2016Rumors says that there will be Samsung Galaxy S7 with Helio X20 and X25, let's just wait and s... moreI doubt that. X20 has very weak GPU compared to snapdragon 820 and Exynos 8890. It is even slower than the Exynos 7420 in S6
X25 from what I heard is just slightly overclocked X20
X20 had weak GPU. It does not match even older Exynos 7420
Also, if this upcoming X30 uses 4-core PowerVR 7XT then that means the GPU will be much weaker than the competition. Old Apple A9 uses 6 core PowerVR 7XT and A9X uses 12 core
It won't even match A9 GPU unless it is clocked much higher. And by time X30 comes out, Apple, Samsung and Qualcomm will have better ARM soc than what we have now. Mediatek will always use much weaker GPU than the competition
RichX, 31 Mar 2016Quoting the top comment from the article linked by Mr. MediaTek's Anonymous Social Media Manag... moreThat guy was an idiot. Of course we need all cores to be specialized eventually.
3 tiers are already two few, 10-12 would be better. Imagine having the right core for the right task, battery life would be phenomenal, sadly the right scheduler is not there yet. Once we have that the road opens. Mediatek is a visionary company by doing things that the status quo is too bothered to even consider. Qualcomm lacks vision and will go down...
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016Welcome mediatek. Keep developing good chipsets. Don't worry about negative comments as these ... moreThe thing that is going to be a a big advantage for mediatech will beusing the 7XT series GPU. That in combination with the 10nm fab process is going to make phones with this SoC be incredibly fast.
If you dont this is cool stuff you shouldnt be calling yoursrlf a geek.
Qualcomm and Apple (on 14nm die) have their work cut out for them.
The race to 4nm continues.
Where most of you people fail is you dont have the vision to see that smartphones will replace notebooks in the near future. With the 3d lattice SD memory coming and increasing capability to connect input and output perephrials wirelessly these new chips will increasingly be needed and used to provide powerful but extremely power efficient computing solutions.
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2016I beat some sense to him already but GSMArena refused to post my evidence, so I'm posting it h... moreQuoting the top comment from the article linked by Mr. MediaTek's Anonymous Social Media Management Guy:
"It's getting a bit like the gillete model now.
Two clusters... no wait, 3 clusters!
...no wait! 4 clusters! Low, middle, high, eXtreme Performance!
...no wait! 5 clusters! With a lubricating strip!"
That sure made my day. Had a good laugh at this one! Hehe! There's more MediaTek-bashing in the comments on that page, but none with the punchline of this one!
I shall not continue to waste my time here for it's evident we're dealing with paid PR campaigners or avid fanboys. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between the two kinds ;)
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2016It's useless knocking some sense into him. The fact that MediaTek keeps on coming out with su... moreI beat some sense to him already but GSMArena refused to post my evidence, so I'm posting it here again:
2+2 losing badly: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/16/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/battery/-728/gsmarena_002.jpg
4+4 winning: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/16/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/battery/-728/gsmarena_001.jpg
2+4+4 winning more than both: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9227/3.PNG
MarcoK., 30 Mar 2016look at the helio x10 ;)Why wouldI look at a two year old processor? We are talking about the future.
Welcome mediatek. Keep developing good chipsets. Don't worry about negative comments as these probably are competition manipulation of people's mind. We need competition and mediatek or any other chipset manufacturer is welcome to compete against qualcomm.
RichX, 30 Mar 2016Wow Mr. I-prefer-not-to-be-named, that's exactly the marketing copy from MediaTek's press rele... moreIt's useless knocking some sense into him. The fact that MediaTek keeps on coming out with supposedly "flagship" SoC yet they end up in bargain bin phones is enough proof that the major manufacturers dont see their performance or "power efficiency" to be anywhere competent to power a flagship phone. He keeps on talking about power on/off core like it's some breakthrough thing and totally oblivious to voltage throttling, just like how MediaTek is oblivious to making powerful, efficient chips.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 201610 core is the sweet spot.
2 for heavy tasks, 4 for medium tasks, 4 for simple tasks.
Mu... moreWow Mr. I-prefer-not-to-be-named, that's exactly the marketing copy from MediaTek's press release! They seriously need to hire you! You love them long time!
On a more serious note, throwing more cores at the problem and claiming it produces power efficient compute chips is a way to disguise the lack of innovation at the core level (because MediaTek as a second rate chip producer is unable to invest the kind of resources required to produce a custom core). Just look at real innovation - Snapdragon 820. Powerful 2x custom core that can scale up to heavy workloads, and 2x low power cores to handle the rest of the stuff. Four is all you need, not 10. If you need more examples, look lower down the scale you'll find plenty of innovation from Intel in the likes of Z35xx. I don't even want to touch on Apple's custom cores for fear of stoking fanboyist rants.
In a way, the current malaise of low performance entry level phones is due to the plentiful availability of low cost Cortex A53-based chips (regardless 4 or 8 or 4+4). If they even went with 2xCortex-A53 + 2xCortex-A57, the baseline for mobile devices would have jumped tremendously and mobile gaming developers will be over the moon. So the sooner we can get rid of these Cortex-53 designs that cram 8 units in claiming to deliver "great" performance (and feed the whole chip off a miserable 1x32-bit RAM interface, and unknown amounts of L2/L3 cache - most likely no more than 512 kB), the better off we are.
any device with a mediatek cpu be it how many cores it have it's a big NO GO!
Shafittey, 30 Mar 2016Rumors says that there will be Samsung Galaxy S7 with Helio X20 and X25, let's just wait and s... moreUnfortunately, the helio X-25 is comparable to Samsung's latest Exynos 8890 in single and multi core. The X30 might be able to compete with the Snapdragon 820.
Rumors says that there will be Samsung Galaxy S7 with Helio X20 and X25, let's just wait and see. It seems like the Helio X25 can compete with Snapdragon 820. unfortunately Helio X20 is much worse than Snapdragon 820. :)