Do you have the same problem with 808? When
disconnecting wifi or mobile internet, if you want to switch it on again , you have to reboot the phone?
Coming to the serious points which will may be surprise for some of US
1- day light photos and landscapes
Nokia 808 Pureview will be better more clear and rich details than Lumia 1020 due to
- Bigger sensor.
- Bigger pixels for both full resolution and pureview
Nokia 808 pureview will better than Lumia 1020 at portraits cause you can do more zoom with 2 MP oversampled mode and also you have 8.02 mm focal length which gives you really nice depth of field on portraits mode for any phone...Lumia 1020 will be good but not as much as 808 PV
3- Macro shots
Nokia 808 pureview will better due to it supports more zoom at 2MP pureview mode beside the pixel size and sensor are bigger than Lumia 1020...also the focal range is 15 cm for both handsets.
Here the comparison will be very hard to tell but let us have slow walkthrough between our evidence
lumia 1020 will be better at any thing without flash cause it will be more steady and useable more than Nokia 808 PV which also can beat Lumia in terms of clarity and details if we used the tripod
so Night portraits and landscapes without flash will be better at Nokia Lumia 1020 cause not every time and all the users will use tripod
Videos: Nokia Lumia 1020 will be better at videos due to OIS and also I saw some sample and it's more sharp than 808 PV + beside the rich audio recording, however WP doesn't support stereo audio recording during the videos but hoping Nokia fixed that so the 2 mics of Lumia 1020 will do their job perfectly
So my final words
Nokia 808 PV > Lumia 1020 in every day usage.
Nokia Lumia 1020 > Nokia 808 PV in every night time, indoors and videos usage
YOU need to be proud for owning Nokia 808 pureview cause no phone will match it in terms of clarity and quality and all the camera guys and professionals will prefer it over any thing due to the 8.02 mm focal length and it's amazing 3.6 zoom at 2MP PV mode and Lumia 1020 quality is very bad comparing to 808 one
I may go for Sony honami, lumia 1020 or XPERIA Z, but I'll keep 808 as my main camera and will never let it for device like 1020...Lumia 1020 official samples on Flickr
have a nice day :)
AnonD-34934, 16 Jul 2013to get some ideas about 808 & 1020 go through
m.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1020_preview-rev... moreI talked with Joha alakrhu on twitter and he replied me himself that they used the same sharpness level of 808....That was his answer about why 1020 have noise and grain on it's photo, he told me also that they didn't excess the noise filtering.
There's alot on this issue stay tuned during the next 3hrs and I'll post which handset will be best over all in terms of camera usage.... :)
Secondary Camera :
I looked for apps , camera demo qt , didn't find it ,
I don't see any apps to use the camera
to get some ideas about 808 & 1020 go through
enjoy using 808
AnonD-77434, 15 Jul 2013Agree totally about every word, the same for me about Lumia 800 for battery and zoom...but Nok... morethe actual camera application work more flawlessly instead of using any third party application. In built app must have zoom option in it ..
AnonD-77434, 15 Jul 2013Agree totally about every word, the same for me about Lumia 800 for battery and zoom...but Nok... more800 is compact in size and one can easily carrry it in pocket specially in office uniforms, dimensions of 808,800 don't bother you. But 920 disturb you a lot and I think 1020 is same size mobile so you can imagine how difficult it will be to keep this mobile in pocket. That's the reason i never tried any galaxy :D it's build quality can't bear to be in jeans pocket and size of galaxies... Don't want to talk about..;)
AnonD-162764, 15 Jul 2013currently main issue with windows phones is battery backup. When you don't use your mobile it ... moreAgree totally about every word, the same for me about Lumia 800 for battery and zoom...but Nokia camera pro app resolved that and you can zoom during the video with (tab to focus) I think :)
stay tuned ")
AnonD-77434, 15 Jul 2013Thanks dear Siva, sure I downloaded the Lumia 1020 samples and make good research on them and ... moreya thank u ziad.. I won't underestimate 1020, but meanwhile we can't let 808 bow down to 1020. Anyhow in near future the real story will be out right. Till that king ( 808 ) of kings ( cameraphones ) will stay the same..;););) sleep well my dear friend|-)|-)
currently main issue with windows phones is battery backup. When you don't use your mobile it will show you a stand by time of 4 days (wifi and net off) but when you use your mobile it will stay on for 4-5 hours . I have experienced Lumia 920 and now i switched back to nokia 808 just because of battery backup and one thing more. Lumia series don't allow zoom while recording videos. You can adjust zoom before recoring npt during the recording. so check it if this 1020 can zoom in /out during recording. Anyways i will suggest you to stay with your 808 going for Lumia series and try to use it like symbian belle 808 is imposible
AnonD-34934, 15 Jul 2013superb Ziad... Thanks for ur Good work... i guess what ever may be in sheets But straight to s... moreThanks dear Siva, sure I downloaded the Lumia 1020 samples and make good research on them and for sure compared them with 808, but since I haven't the Lumia 1020, so I will post what I noticed and what is the truth behind the new device quality and will it deliver or not
read the lumia 1020 advantages again...cause The reality isn't typical to the sheet
writing this from my bed...Now I'll sleep :D
stay tuned to know which device is better in photography day using ;)
now i know why they discontinued 808, they wanted to clear the space so they can sell a windows phone with a pureview camera. I expect the difference to be marginal, either it is advantage of 1020 over 808 or disadvantage. NOkia i think had the pressure to make it slimmer, so they made entire new camera module, i just think it would be better if they worked on 808 sensor to make it even better, they should have made it even refine. Nokia at the end is a company with sinking profits, they need to pull up their socks. My point is, a year back I was astonished, aw struck when they introduced 808, but this year, i was not, its just a 808 with wp8 slapped on it(broadly speaking)
AnonD-77434, 15 Jul 2013Hi all dear friends Now for the breathtaking moment and the reality voice...(echo somewhere... moresuperb Ziad... Thanks for ur Good work... i guess what ever may be in sheets But straight to straight image comparison Between 808 and 1020 should say the rest.. what do u say Ziad????
Hi all dear friends
Now for the breathtaking moment and the reality voice...(echo somewhere) :D
First here is some hints about the new Nokia lumia 1020 with 41 MP powered by WP8 OS
Camera Resolution: 7728 x 5368 pixels
F stop: F/2.2 aperture (wider than 808 PV F/2.4)
Camera Sensor: 1/1.5" inch BSI Sensor which produce more sensitive pixels to the light, means great night shots quality (smaller than 808 PV 1/1.2" inch CMOS)
Camera Focus range: 15 cm to infinity (same as 808 PV)
Camera Image Formats: JPEG (no raw yet)
Nokia camera pro app: Auto and Manual Exposure,
Auto and Manual White Balance,
Carl Zeiss Optics, front facing camera with F/2.4 and HD video
Continuous Auto Focus, Manuel focus
Dual capture 34+5 MP in the same time, Exposure Compensation till 4 sec and shutter speed up to 1/16000
Face recognition for the first time in WP OS main camera app if we consider Nokia camera pro app is a default as it comes out of the box, Geo tagging,
Lens Construction: 6 elements lenses construction
Optical Image Stabilization(2nd generation),
Pixel Size: 1.12 µm (smaller than 808 PV 1.4 um physical one, not to mention PV mode which I posted before)
Video: 1080 @ 30,25,24 FPS with 4x lossless zoom
720 @ 30,25,24 FPS with 6x lossless zoom
No 360p video with 12x lossless zoom like 808 PV and no 15 FPS for all the video recordings
Lumia 1020 has mechanical shutter (like 808 PV)
2 mics for Nokia rich audio recording
Flash : Xenon for stills and LED for videos and photo assist.
So as you see here the New Lumia 1020 has some new features over 808 PV like:
- OIS 2nd generation
- wider aperture F/2.2 which means more wide view finder and more depth of field with more catching for light.
- ISO up to 3200 2x more than 808 PV 1600 only...which supposed to handle the light photos better 1600 ISO for lumia 1020 should be better and more noise controlled than 808 PV
-Exposure time up to 4 seconds to be the first phone ever to have such ET 3+- steps more than Nokia 808 2.7 sec only.
quite good isn't it...also don't forget the new algorithms for the PV technology and oversampling which producing vivid color, sharp images as Nokia said and Juha alkarahu on twitter.
Nowwwwwww the 808 turn over Lumia 1020...we just begain :)
- bigger sensor 1/1.2" CMOS the biggest sensor ever with 8.02 focal length...Hulk!!! (I'll back for that)
- 2,8 MP pureview mode over sampled pictures
- bigger Pixel size (((Ever))) for pureview mode
2 MP : 4.89 um...OMG!!!
5 MP : 3.91 um
8 MP : 3.07 um
- Nokia 808 has ND filter can be controlled automatically and manually for reducing highlights on such big F-stop 2.4 which gains big amount of light.
- ISO 50 option.
-360p Video with amazing 12X lossless zoom, 15 FPS mode also on all the videos.
Very wild and hot comparisons between two monsters which change the smartphone camera forever as N8 before
but what is one is the best????
what device will be more practical and professional????
stay tuned :D
AnonD-77434, 14 Jul 2013Hi all friend and the best fourem Finally Nokia unveiled the Lumia 1020 with it's totally n... moreWow! Okay, waiting. I bet your review will be done before the GSMArena final review. :-)