I love this phone, but its made out of SHi*! ive had it for half a year, and the terrible build quality just pisses me off. Now the speaker stopped working. Im so upset. Theres nothing better right now (besides innov8), so you cant just put it on the shelf and forget about it... But you cant live with it either... Hmm.. From this perspective previous k800 was much better.
Anonymous, 28 Oct 2008Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- ... morei didnt really saw why innov8 was superior compared to N96, N85 or even N82 because it doesnt contain somethng different compared to the 3 feature wise
based on a normal consumer like me(95% the least) the specs of innov8 doesnt matter because we dont use them often in our daily life and we knew that it just adds up to the price. And you might have notice the cold attention of people when innov8 came out compared to the hype and interest that n96, n85 and n82
If you think of it generaly
N96 - consumer will get all the feature that innov8 have plus DVB-H and a 50euro bunos being N96 cheaper than innov8
N85 - consumer will get all the feature that innov8 have plus OLED, FM transmitter, longer battery life and 150euro bunos being n85 cheaper than innov8
N82 - consumer will get all the feature that innov8 have plus Xenon and 200euro bunos
Innov8 doesnt offer anything different from the 3 except upgrade of its features and extra cost.
chris, 28 Oct 2008to lalola: dude, you wasted your time making all of that crap up. Hey, were not talking here ... moreI get it. Theres a reas0n behind it bro. Btw lightctrl 1.20 is the exact versi0n im using.
Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : TI OMAP 2430 450MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N96 : STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 264MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N85 : FreeScale I.MX31 369MHz, 128MB RAM
Jbenchmark 1.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 4997
- Nokia N96 : 2796
- Nokia N85 : 3232
Jbenchmark 2.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 532
- Nokia N96 : 358
- Nokia N85 : 548
Jbenchmark 3D HQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 873
- Nokia N96 : 155
- Nokia N85 : 195
Jbenchmark 3D LQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 979
- Nokia N96 : 283
- Nokia N85 : 380
Jbenchmark HD Gaming Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 956 (29.0 fps)
- Nokia N96 : 127 (4.2 fps)
- Nokia N85 : 166 (5.5 fps)
TI OMAP 2430 model are the 2nd generation of TI OMAP chips, 2420, powers multiple hi-end Nokia smartphones(N93, N95, E90, N82) and has in fact an integrated 3D accelerator.
The improvement from 2420 also extremely numerous. The CPU frequency has been pulled up to 450MHz from previous value of 330MHz. The chipset can work with high definition camera(> 5 MP) and it take less than a second to take shot. The rest important point about 2430 hardware are an upgrade TWL4030 module (TWL 92230 was used in 2420). TWL4030 is multifunctional solution providing access to numerous codecs, dedicated audio processing module, noise filters, and so on.
Samsung i8510 is the first Samsung smartphone to fully utilize the potential of the hardware graphics accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing 8 megapixel images, real-time VGA video decoding with separate audio signal processing(done by dedicated DSP, excluding the possibility of using the music player and camera at the same time). The graphic accelerator can now handle twice as few polygons per second, commonly used to power the best gaming phone.
Nokia N85 utilizes the same hardware as N78, N81, and N79. Freescale is cheaper solution for the most expensive TI OMAP 2430. The lack of 3D accelerator is blatant in the Jbenchmark 3D test. N85 lags behind in other test as well. Despite the lags seen in the test, N85 audio quality is the same with N96, a bit above than N78, but a bit below than Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8.
- Samsung i8510 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 310 h, Talk time Up to 8 h 30 min
- Nokia N96 : Standard, Li-Ion 950 mAh, Stand-by Up to 220 h, Talk time Up to 3 h 40 min !!!!!!!!
- Nokia N85 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 360 h, Talk time Up to 6 h 50 min
- Samsung i8510 : 8 MP, Video VGA@30fps, QVGA@120fps
- Nokia N96 : 5 MP , Video VGA@30fps
- Nokia N85 : 5 MP, Video VGA@30fps
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 has faster hardware performance, the best camera, excellent sound - DNSe 2.0 (Digital Natural Sound engine), excellent build quality, good battery, good price etc. while Nokia N96 is the slowest most expensive and with just 950 mah battery.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 fully utilize the potential of the 3D graphic accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing the camera, video recording, decoding and playback. Nokia N85 and N96 can't handle this perfectly because the lack of graphic accelerator.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 is the best gaming phone today. U can enjoy your 3D or HD games running perfectly in 29 fps, while Nokia N85 and N96 only can run below 10 fps. Thank's to dedicated hardware graphic accelerator.
except colour, wat is the difference btween silver and black colour?
chris, 28 Oct 2008to lalola: dude, you wasted your time making all of that crap up. Hey, were not talking here ... moreu still didnt get it. every nseries device has its own strengths and weaknesses. n82's strongest feature is its camera - 5mp, carl zeiss optics, xenon flash, autofocus, good image processing algorithm... but n82, COMPARED TO N81, is weak in music department - no music keys, no naviwheel, low speaker quality, and no dedicated sound processor which is a must in a music phone. compared to n81/n95 8g/n96, n82 is also weaker in gaming than these phones - no gaming buttons for psp-like gaming experience. compared to n95 8gb/n96, n82 is weaker when it comes to media and content viewing - smaller, dimmer screen, lousy landscape content viewing (video, web, maps, etc.) because of lack of media keys as controls, and dedicated video processor (versus n96). the strongest feature of n82 is n81's weakest - camera. n81's strongest feature is n82's weakest - music. i hope you already get it.
It doesn't end with just that. Why would they need to set brightness levels to low for n82 just to imply that N82 is not meant to be best for visualization functions? They could just let the brightness come to satisfactory levels, that't won't make it ground-breaking in movie-watching still. Given the dimensions of the screen alone and everybody gets the hint that it's not meant to dethrone n95 8gb or n96 in the video department. There is absolutely no need for pathetic restrictions just for the sake of highlighting the idea of assignations.
to iolo003: Sorry dude, I meant, "can you tell me?"
haha.. my bad making all of that crap up too.. Thanks bro, Now can you ell me where did you get this "light control application"? Thanks a lot.
dude, you wasted your time making all of that crap up. Hey, were not talking here about what phone is designated for what. First off, N series devices are, according to nokia, all-around devices. Now tell me what's wrong with how I saw the situation.
It doesn't necesarily mean they should throw in more effort. It's only a simple tweak, and it won't cost them anything to just alter it in the firmware configurations. If thay can make it just better at the cost of nothing. Why couldn't they? That's what I mean
chris, 28 Oct 2008first off... to anonymous(just below this post). how could you say so? n82 is just an or... morehow u look at n82 is not how nokia looks at this phone. nokia created n82 for the purpose of being a camera phone thats why they gave emphasis to its camera by adding xenon flash, but limits its other potentials by throwing in a smaller screen rather than a larger screen; candybar form is compact and solid yet limited in functions; screen brightness was set to dim compared to other phones indicating that n82 can be also used to watch movies but not the best in that department; it plays music but music experience is rather lousy because of the lack of music keys on the phone and on the headset; a smaller battery capacity was thrown in rather than a larger one. nokia emphasized the camera capabilities on n82 but limits its other multimedia functions. every nseries device has its own positioning and target audience. if people want the best camera phone, then n82 is the right choice since its apparently the best in this area. if people want a good music & gaming device, then n81 is the right phone since its music quality and gaming capabilities are one step ahead of the rest. for those people who want an a complete multimedia powerhouse, then n95 8gb is that device because its form factor suits its purpose. n96 for tv and video playback because of dvb-h and dedicated video processor. see? every nseries device has its own positioning. n82 is the strongest when it comes to imaging, n81 is the strongest when it comes to music & gaming, n95 8gb is the strongest when it comes to media viewing because of its large screen, n96 is the strongest when it comes to media consumption. you may say that n82 can do everything that ever other nseries does but its expertise is set on imaging only. n82 can play good music and good games but not better than n81. it can be used to watch movies but not as good as n95 8gb/n96. so on and so forth...
chris, 28 Oct 2008Another thing.. about nokia.. I'm pissed with how they treat N82. really dissapointed w... moreBecause if n0kia will thr0w m0re effort to impR0ve n82 like f0r example the screen, it will be able to beat the new m0del they are about to create. Thats what im thinking
chris, 28 Oct 2008Another thing..
I'm pissed with how they treat N82.
really dissapointed w... moredude you have to install light control app on ur n82, its free to download.. it wil allow you 2 control screen brightnes without hacking your device
it works in marvel c",
I'm pissed with how they treat N82.
really dissapointed with nokia, not woth n82.
People complain about the screen brightness of n82. Nokia couldn't fix it with next firmwares. I really think fixing that woulnd't cost them anything, it isn't too hard to ask for right?
So ok, enough with that if they couldn't fix it. The least that they could do is to allow consumers to fix it on their own. People did it by hacking their phones. Which is great..
Now here comes nokia again with their sick idea of making the V30 firmware of n82 unhackable.
What's up with that?