Anonymous, 16 May 2020Why don't you ask him if poor sales are part of that vision or not. Even the Galaxy Fold whic... moreLike I said earlier, you still don't know how many units they produced? If they manufactured 600K units and sell 400K units that's bad business for you right. Let them present their quarterly fiscal earnings then we'll know for sure if they made loss or profit.
Gganso, 16 May 2020Did you even watch the xperia 1 II's announcement? He clearly said Sony's vision is to help pe... moreWhy don't you ask him if poor sales are part of that vision or not.
Even the Galaxy Fold which is a niche device being a foldable, sold more than 450k units in total since its launch.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020No need for him to try again anything. As what you wrote is utter nonsense.
"Bigger batteries... moreMy ignorance?
There you go, higher capacity batteries with more charging cycles.
[deleted post]Did you even watch the xperia 1 II's announcement? He clearly said Sony's vision is to help people unleash their creative skills through technology. You know why this phone has 21:9 aspect ratio, 4K display, Cinema Pro app, Photo Pro app and full uninterrupted viewing experience? It just doesn't fit in like the rest and few of us like such a product.
[deleted post]that's possible. but in the mean time. fact is fact. sony xperia still on the market and sony is releasing xperia 1II.
let's save your argument later when sony actually announce they would close their mobile division
Anonymous, 15 May 2020Well If it continues to sell less phones in an entire first quarter compared to some individua... morefrom the day sony ventured in mobile business with ericsson back in 2001, i have never seen even once sony actually dominated in phone business, sony not even dominated in japan market. and yet 19 years of that, sony still there, perhaps the reasons of that is sony is much bigger company than a smartphone company, sony is one of the biggest company in entertainment industry, ever heard a company called sony music and sony entertainment/pictures? they also have electronics division which not just focus on smartphone. perhaps you never heard playstation before or sony bravia? do you even know blue-ray? or sony alpha, sony headphone, sony walkman and stuff? sure when they lost ton of money in smartphone business, they'll close or sell that mobile division just like vaio. but 19 years...they seems fine
i'm not saying sony is the biggest electronic company in the world, samsung much bigger than sony, huawei much bigger than sony. but saying they'll go bankrupt because a chinese phones sell more that xperia kinda hilarious
not bad for a company that sold a lot of phones
Gganso, 15 May 2020"It's not about profit or loss" yet you're here claiming Sony mobile will be out of business.Well If it continues to sell less phones in an entire first quarter compared to some individual Chinese phone in a single flash sale, then they will choose to shut it down.
At the end of the day, it's business!
[deleted post]"It's not about profit or loss" yet you're here claiming Sony mobile will be out of business.
Anyone on the exact release date yet ? Or still that late May bullshit.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020You do realize if sales and profits went down the way they are, you no longer will be able to ... moreSure those are few units, but do you the number of phones they manufactured? You need that number to determine whether it's profit or loss.
SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 15 May 2020LG and Motorola providing 5000mAh batteries on their flagships with 100+ hours of endurance ra... moreNo need for him to try again anything. As what you wrote is utter nonsense.
"Bigger batteries have more charge cycles..."
Jezzzus, the ignorance.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020Why are you hiding the name of the mid range device?
You afraid, you'd be called out on it?
... moreNot telling, bcause fellas like you tend to go agressive on any mention of certain names, calling Sony fans trolls etc.... I am not a troll, as many Anonymouses here are.
On the other hand, an Anonymous requesting a certain OEM name is... hypocritical to say the least.
Smithravi, 15 May 2020That shutter sound is so satisfying.. Check out the new Xperia 1 ii promotional video http... moreThis phone sounds more like alpha than xperia. Maybe it's time I try smartphone photography.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020Your anectodal evidence doesn't matter.
I also have degradation proof of 10% on my wife's On... moreWhy dont we exchange proof then.
I have it ready, 3 yr old phone receipt, and screenshots of accubattery showing 9% degradation after 3 yrs with date on top...
I ll post first.
Just agree and of we go?
Reply when ready.
Well, 94 pages of comments at the time of this comment was written, and yet this before the Xperia 1 II hit the market yet, let alone being reviewed LOL. Proving how stabilized, solid, popular, diverse, loyal, and shock is Sony in the smartphone universe, especially some Sony smartphone that proven both solid & beloved by fans like Z3, Z5 Premium, XZ Premium, Xperia 1 & 1 II, even when the halycon days of Sony Mobile is already in the past.
And let's be honest here. Let's settle any argumentation, for now, especially the launch of this device is around the corner of the highway, in for and to be reviewed by tech journalists, to acknowledge how solid Xperia 1 II can prove, especially offering most completed essentially packaged smartphone in 2020, last seen in both Samsung Galaxy Note9 and Asus Zenfone 6 (3.5mm headphone jack, stereo speakers, no-notch / punch-hole interruption, a versatile camera setup, "optimized" big battery,etc.)
Smithravi, 15 May 2020Sony is not a small company to go bankrupt based on Mobile business. If they are, they would h... moreno need to waste time typing facts of basic economy for those people. they won't read anyway. in their minds, papa bear is the savior
Anonymous, 15 May 2020You do realize if sales and profits went down the way they are, you no longer will be able to ... moreSony is not a small company to go bankrupt based on Mobile business. If they are, they would have gone bankrupt couple of years ago and not now. They are multinational conglomerate company. Even if they lose in one segment, they get income through other divisions. Just like how Ferrari (previously owned by FCA group) or Lamborghini (Owned by VW group) or Tesla (owned by Elon Musk) can run even in loses, these parent companies have multiple divisions where they get profits and loses accordingly. Even in case of loses, they can be saved from one or other divisions instead of complete bankrupt.
Why would anyone sells their product at a loss to gain profit?? Sony simply can't sell their products at the price of other chinese mobiles or a make product with lot of loopholes like chinese mobiles and compromise on overall quality (If they compromise, they not only get bad reputation for their mobile business but also to other segments). Also these so called chinese companies barely spend any money on R&D. Sony spends billions on just R&D. Assessing a company based on the sales of Q1 2020 is mindless.