Zoom and Bokeh on cell phones are all software post processing features.
Sony doesnt care for it, photography s art, not software
AnonD-20461, 23 Sep 2017Unfair score
Bokeh tests, which pulled the weight of the score down???
Can xzp do bokeh wi... moreThe iPhone 8 has a f/1.8 lens and XZP has a f/2.0 lens. It's obvious that it'll have a slightly better natural bokeh effect.
And at 4k, the XZP only has 3 Axis EIS, while the iPhone 8 has both OIS and EIS. Obviously the iPhone will have better stabilization when recording in 4k.
AlterofPascalSilv7s, 23 Sep 2017Fine, if that's the main problem Sony, i can accommodate it. But, does need every website need... morePoint is it feels more like they don't want to. XA1 got the same camera as generations of flagships before, yet it can do miles better. Also, no matter what phone, be it even Chinese one or any new startup, there is no such noise/artifacts. There is just not enough of: why?
[deleted post]iPhone 8 was just released and it already got tested immediately.
XZ Premium was already out for so many months now but just got tested today.
I guess Apple didn't pay DxOMark at all, but to say that Sony fans are pathetic is just like saying that your iPhone doesn't deserve the score it gained. We only want a more accurate result, and the Z5 with inferior camera to the XZ Premium has a higher score, which leads us to blame the new protocol to give mediocre scores.
Besides, iPhone 8 can't even produce any better bokeh shots than the XZ Premium, but gets 10 points higher, even though its low light performance is just as great as the XZ Premium if not any better.
Vegetaholic, 23 Sep 2017Sony never was between best in android photography, so I am not surprised When you think of mobile photography you don't think of Sony even though they make some of the best camera sensors out there lol how very ironic.
To be frank i couldn't care less if my sony has a camera or not. I don't even have a camera app anymore on my phone :))
People are too obsessed with taking selfies all the time: oh look at me I'm so desperate for attention. Please like my selfie!
Move on guys.... Let it be. Anyway even if with high scores neg Comments will still be present and will dominate. I own one and realy enjoy it.
Anonymous, 23 Sep 2017Please go educate yourself on what bokeh is. It doesn't require dual lenses. You clearly know ... moreThe thing is that dual cameras allow for greater bokeh shots, so those who doesn't have dual cameras that allows for a better bokeh shots will have to suffer from low score, as if they're being punished of not including a secondary camera to do it.
I just don't know, but maybe Apple paid DxOMark to give iPhone 8 and 8 Plus a high score. Sure, the 8 Plus will have great score because its bokeh rating will be high due to the help of the secondary telephoto lens, but not sure about the 8, with only one camera but scores as high. Like, yeah, the f1.8 lens will create a slightly shallower bokeh, but not too much against f2.0.
My sister's G4 with f1.8 lens takes slightly more shallow background defocus than my Zenfone Max with f2.0.
It's clear to say that Apple paid DxOMark this time.
I know Sony also did this in 2015, but it's just to show what the new sensor is, and the score of 87 that it used to have is more deserved by the mid range XA1 than the Z5 or any Xperia flagship with IMX300 23mp sensor.
Hoffmann, 23 Sep 2017Although I think this DxO thing is not that accurate, I'm very surprised to see XZ Premium in ... moreProbably because those older devices actually have better sensors and/or better software and processing than Sony's best devices lol
Anonymous, 23 Sep 2017LOL. aaaaahaaahaaa now you said that, dear 6xuu.
why dont you praise dxo again?LOL. aaaaahaaahaaa now you said that, dear 60EZ.
why dont you bash dxo again?
With the new score, Samsung S6 is 82.
XZP is ahead of it.
But if iphone is 94, Sony has obligation to deliver a phone to earn 97.
Anonymous, 23 Sep 2017red tint has been fixed immediately via software updates. how about sony's distortion? sony c... moreWhat distortion, i have watched hundreds of video comparisons on YouTube about the xzp, and it shows no distortion, no reviewer complained, not even user complained in a comment, now i am concerned about you.
Sony is the worst camera I have used particularly in low light photography. Such a crap.. The noise is so high... Terrible image quality.
I have used HTC, Samsung, LG... None of those is as bad as Sony. Even Xiaomi is miles better than Sony.
Please do not get Sony if you want to have good camera on your phone.
Scopes reviews benchmarks all are useless gimmicks. Even if it's camera isn't the best it is perfect.
After reading this news, the big question is, why are these super famous companies are so concerned from the tiny Sony mobile division? Lol, why they are acting like towards Sony?
AnonD-20461, 23 Sep 2017Unfair score Bokeh tests, which pulled the weight of the score down??? Can xzp do bokeh wi... morePlease go educate yourself on what bokeh is. It doesn't require dual lenses. You clearly know very little about photography, please leave it to the pros until you gained some knowledge. And the XZP has 5 axiz stabilization only during 1080p video, 4k has 3 axiz stabilization.
This xzp score proves dxo is a joke
There are a lot of fan boy in there, look at a dxo guy in flash section, can i believe him?
Every reviewer have different score and opinion
So dont trust them 100 percen