Oathbreaker, 18 Sep 2017Apple II
Mac OS X
iPad... moreFirst 4 from the list, absolutely agreed. Rest of the list, not so much. None of the latter were innovations but refinements of existing ideas. They're the most popular and have altered the playing field, but not necessarily through innovations. You can argue that novel implementation of existing ideas as innovation, of course. That is the thing I personally like about Apple. They take things only geeks would love and turn it into something with mass appeal. I am not excited about the new iPhones, but I am excited that in a year or 2, I can wirelessly charge my phones anywhere due to the broad appeal of iPhones.
Tribalism between camp is getting old. Why not both? Interoperability is the future. Ecosystem lock-in needs to go.
Neo19, 18 Sep 2017We need to see how the cameras perform when the phone is released. The sceeen resolution is no... moreMany a times love for the brand Apple hides certain things. I have seen customers complaining about hardware failures, when myself visited Apple's authorized service center to get my dead iPhone 6s(motherboard gone in just 15 months) replaced. Don't think that Apple, by being a premium brand, won't give you any troubles down the road. Hardware failures will be there no matter what the brand is. If Apple is soo reliable then there isn't any reason to have so many service centers in all over the world. Agreed, Apple makes really good phones, but just like any other, it is also bound to have issues.
Regional filtration should be shown at result page, after all peoples from 3rd world rendered a big lot of haters because of its exorbitant price. BTW, its hot or not but a pricy shit which doesn't worth 1000$.
My question is what can for example Galaxy Note 8 do that Galaxy S7 can't? What can iPhone X do that iPhone 6S plus can't? It's simple NOTHING
Fuji-san, 18 Sep 2017The Talking Poop is a very good representation of Apple's new iPhones.
I could easily buy a... moreOnce more, you're comparing Apples with Oranges (and I am in your camp. Android forever!)
1. like you said yourself. this is apple's first ettempt to create a "bezelless" phone. in all things. not just the iPhone. First Generation of everything is crappy. sure. the 4 phones Mentioned are excellent StB champions. but for god's sake, when APPLE tries to join the fun everyone hate it. WHY?
2. Screen type: that one made me laugh, literally.
so!? what did you expect!? that iPhones will use a type of screen that is MUCH superior to Amoled!? like in iPhones, same in Android: you win some and you lose some. simple as that!
3. And how do you know "it took up to this year?" maybe they were Experimenting how to add support without making it chubbier?
sure, Fast charge is a bless. and I enjoy it on my s8. and Especially the Wireless type.
4. Idiocy at it's glory. sure. the SoT of iPhones is FAR from even achieving the weakest of androids. but then again. try to be an apple Engineer, Dunk in the iPhone 8 a 3,200 mAh battery, keep it slender as it is and avoid the Fiasco of Note 7. possible? no. I am an Android user. and I tried my best to mimic the battery life (as in talk time, and so on) starting from the EXACT mAh Amount of the iPhone I got from work. it barely reaches half!
5. sure. so Jony tried to demonstrate it. again, why would people give a damn over a measly ettempt of ONE person!? nothing is perfect. but one thing is sure: PRACTICE that thing making perfect.
6. There are 12 possible animojis. mind you. not everyone are Techies like me and you. and most of the people don't even know what is the difference between the two OS's. they're like: "I love apple because their UI is friendly to me" can you force someone to hate a brand? no. like a brand? can try. but success is not guranteed.
Just wanted to keep facts right.
X, 18 Sep 2017Copy, copy ,copy that's appleApple II
Mac OS X
Sure, dude. Apple isn't innovative enough. They only happen to make products that change the world. How many years has Google and Samsung been innovative? Seven years? Try 40+. Give me a product list from Google and Samsung that changed multiple industries. How many game-changing products from them?
So if Apple copies a few features, everyone goes nuts. We wouldn't have PCs, PDAs, thousands of songs in our pockets, and App Stores in the first place without Apple.
Google and Samsung should be grateful towards Apple for changing industries. Just because companies do it first doesn't mean it is done better.
Nope. Not adding fuel to the fire, which is, higher flagship prices
wqcr, 17 Sep 2017Actually you can. And ARM SOC aren't that far behind desktop CPUs. S835 actually topples up si... moreI don't think a SD835 can beat a mobile Core i7 (HQ series, usually 35 and 45W TDP, not the Ultra Low Voltage U series with a reduced TDP of around 15W) or even a Core i5. Maybe the Y-series, AKA the Ultra Ultra low voltage series meant for lighter and thinner laptops like the XPS 13, with a TDP of 5W max.
Iphone X is like Samsung Galaxy S9 that's being launched earlier and is made by Apple ...
The Talking Poop is a very good representation of Apple's new iPhones.
I could easily buy an iPhone X or 8 Plus w/256 GB, but I won't, as that would just be a massive waste of money.
The new iPhones have no innovations whatsoever:
- mostly borderless: very poor implementation, especially with that horrible notch at the top. The best borderless implementation is still Mi Mix (or Mi Mix 2), followed by the LG G6/V30 and then the S8 - only third because the edge isn't that great, but overall still much better than the iPhone X.
8/8 Plus have the same huge bezels that go all the way back to the 6, unchanged. They're just a refresh of a refresh of a refresh, better called 6sss/6sss Plus.
Verdict: Apple limps behind the competition, but is far from reaching it.
- screen type: only the X has Amoled, which has already been used by others for a long time already. 8/8 Plus still have old LED, and 8 still has a super low resolution, which is only found in $100 el cheapo Android phones anymore.
Verdict: Especially with the 8/8 Plus, Apple limps behind the competition, but is far from reaching it.
- battery charging: it took Apple until this year to add fast charging, while on the Android side, it has a long history already, and even cheap ones have it nowadays. Typical for Apple, it doesn't come out of the box, but you have to purchase it. It's not even a proper fast charging solution, you have to use the Macbook charger. It's not new, either: last year, some guys were trying the Macbook charger on an iPhone 7 (with the neccessary adapter), and it was charging much faster.
Wireless Qi charging also is nothing new, and Apple only supports the old, slower standard.
Verdict: Also here, Apple is still limping behind the competition.
- battery size: Apples batteries have always been ludicrously small. Rather than fixing this, the batteries were shrunk even more this year: only 1800 mAh in the 8, 2600 in the 8 Plus. On the Android side, the minimum is generally 3000 mAh. S8+ has 3500 mAh, Mate 9 has 4000 mAh, and Lenovo P2 or Galaxy A9 Pro even have 5000 mAh, almost double as much as the 8 Plus.
Verdict: Once again, Apple is massively limping behind the competition.
- Face ID: better named Fail ID, as it failed hard when Jony wanted to demonstrate it. Just a half-baked and half-assed solution that was added as a last resort, because they couldn't get the under-glass Touch ID to work, even though Vivo already has showcased working devices exhibiting it.
Verdict: You know the drill. Limp, limp, limp, Apple limps along.
- Talking Poop (and other animoji): Might impress three-year-olds, or people stuck on the mental level of a three year old, but clearly no one else.
Verdict: How limp can Apple still get?
How sad that Apple was too incapable to do any better.
There was a time when they had actual innovations, but this time is long over.
Especially for the 10th anniversary, one would've expected something special, but Apple totally failed to deliver.
if only Sony knows how to listen, this iphone x is nothing, in terms of hardware,software and performance. what a sad world
wqcr, 17 Sep 2017Actually you can. And ARM SOC aren't that far behind desktop CPUs. S835 actually topples up si... moreYour type of response means to me, you know nothing about CPU and architecture and etc!
But at least tell me which kind of i7 you are referring to, there are tons of i7 variants, its a family as you may know and which generation, there 7 generation by now (8th is coming!). you are comparing a U series from first gen with S835 or 7th gen of desktop class!!!!!!!!
And by far the most important thing you can never compare a x86 with arm architecture by numbers, you may compare them in real life situations by run time, render time and etc, but you can't by benchmark numbers.
Anonymous, 18 Sep 2017BSD and Linux were never designed to be mobile platforms either, and yet here we are, in 2017,... moreAgain, iOS and Android are mobile plaforms. They have been designed and optimized for use. They are lightweight in comparison with a true mobile OS, meaning they cannot be compared. Why do you think Microsoft failed when they tried their experiment with their "One Windows" thing trying to run the same OS between desktop and mobile phone? Mobile processors cannot handle the processes of a fully fledged desktop OS. Try running Windows 10 Pro on an S835 and try playing Doom on Ultra settings and see how the S835 fares.