True the 5800 isnt as flexible as a windows mobile device Like the HTC tytn2 in the sense of doing everything your PC can, but to be honest I'm starting to realise that alot of that was just clutter I never used on my old phone.
I thought the HTC had a good speaker for music but the 5800's blows it away, although the mediaplayer style playlist means playing a homemade compilation album is a right pain, as it sorts all the songs into original album titles so you cant just click the folder and play all. However I plan on getting powermusic3 which does this (at the princely sum of £8).
Its not quite as intuitive to use as a winmob device or Android, but its still no nonsense and easy to reach stuff, it might just take a couple of extra clicks.
The touch screen is waaay better than my oldTytn2's and I dont think theres a massive difference to the iphones of my mates, its just a slightly different amount of force or pause you have to use. The only big difference is that this doesnt have the multi touch option for zooming etc. but with a zoom button at the side, a double tap 3 preset zoom option AND a webpage overview option it really isnt missed.
The camera is faaaar Better than anything HTC can offer even now. Its certanily good enough for "recording the moment" or facebook entries. Plus you have 30fps video recording.
Text input is very easy and the full qwerty screenpad doesnt make too many mistakes, is only slightly slower to type in than if you had a physical keyboard and unlike others I find it easy to tap the screen to get the cursor between letters. The alphanumeric pad is great for typing while on the move too.
Internet browsing is easy, probably easier than my old HTC and I love the way it displays a stacked overview of each previous page when you tap back, but its a shame that while you can toggle between open webpages there seems like theres no option to actually open fresh pages, only toggle between those that have been created as pop ups!
Big hurrah for a far better phone keypad than on my old HTC and no accidental program opening while on the phone what with the proximity sensor.
A BIG bug bear I had with the HTC was that the alarm would only work if the phone was on, so at Night you couldnt turn the phone off. Not the case here. Also the calendar on Winmobile never gave you a preview of what was planned on each day unless you physically opened the day. The Nokia allows you to scroll through the month view and see whats happening each day.
Conectivity to your PCs outlook is great, so Calendar events, contacts, internet favourites etc all work seamlessly once transferred across. One annoyance is when swapping contacts from the HTC to the new phone via sim the HTC the contacts automatically save surname first whichyou can change in settings, but when you swap the SIM to the Nokia they are shown with the surname under the firstname and vice versa and theres no setting to swap them all round at once. This is more a problem with the HTCs organising and I could probably have solved it by swapping contacts through outlook.
Downsides: No office apps as standard and it looks like its £27 to download them (and I dont use them that often! maybe only once a month to write lists and lyrics). The copy and paste is ok (and at least its there, unlike the iphone I believe), but it is relatively basic in comparison to windows mobile and isnt available on everything. Ovi maps is a great app to have on there, the GPS picks up REALLY fast and is incredibly accurate. You can run your music etc at the same time and both continue to work even if they are in the background, but whilst its now free for audio instructions and turn by turn navigation (which google maps doesnt offer), the proggy seems to take you very weird ways to your destination, so TomTom will be going on soon (are s60 models backwards compatible with old TomTom versions etc??? [smiley=dunno.gif])
...and I have had one freeze.
I got an orange update where I had to turn off the phone then turn it back on and it froze. I thought it was because the battery was almost dead when I was notified and that I had buggered it because it had gone flat mid update, so I was in a strop for the rest of the night that the phone was frozen on the Nokia Logo, even if you took the battery out, then in or put it on charge ( I could almost swear also that whe looking at the nokia Logo the screen inside the casing is ever so everso not level but I could be wrong, its too small to make any difference). I finally tried removing the battery AND the SIM and putting them back and since then I've had no other issues.
Overall this phone does all the things people expect of modern phones and most of them it does better than the average person would expect. Better still I can still use it on my motorbike with gloves on if I'm pausing at the side of the road without having to take my glove off like you would with a capacitive screen. The i-phone and androids seem to have far more gimmicks that make using it as a toy fun but if you want something that still resembles a phone rather than a PC, but that does all the things an i-phone can do, just in a more traditional set out (not neccesarily worse), I say this is a fantastic device.
Now lets hope that the reports of freezing software are overplayed!!! :o ;)
This is goin out to all the readers of the post, and of course to nokia.
the most feature packed phone in the market. No complains abt any of the features.
The thing with the phone is, its buggy. I hope a few more updates should cover that up. Other than that i hav been using this phone for 4 months now, and i am really pleased. The phone has surpassed my experience with the e71. This phone just needs bug fixes like songs vanishing from the library and browser crashing from heavy sites. And its a bit slow. But it exceeds my expectations each and every mornin when i get up and start my phone. So just fix the bugs and all owners of this phone will rejoice. And we all are eager that when will we be able to port maemo and s^3 to our phones. Finally, this one goes out to nokia, nokia has done a gr8 job of producing such a phone. Just keep posting those firmware updates.
P.S. I wrote all of this on my nokia 5800 .
my 5800 was working fine even after upgrading to v 40/ But now when connect to the computer, the phone is not detected in ovi music player mode. I am not able to transfer the music from computer to device or vice versa because the phone is not detected even after changing the mode to media transfer. what should I do?
puyol, 18 Feb 2010when i try to download the map using ovi maps,it always said that my memory is full.my memory ... morewhen u r requested 2 free memory u r actually required 2 free ur phone memory just transfer all ur phone memory data to the Mem card and then also msg occurs then just restart the phone and try again.....5800 Rocks....
only competitor to dis may be samsung i5700 but it doesnt have free navigation.....SO NOKIA CHEERS......
some say that this phone is not good. but there is no problem at all. it has all the features it is having the features of a 30000 rupee mobile. how much features should nokia provide to a 13000re mobile. its price is less because it has got 3mp cam. and not because it is not good. just see other phones a phone with less cam have less price even htc. it has most of the features of n97 which is a costly mobile. don't think to buy this phone. just buy if you like it it is worth for 13000
guys just llove your phone. its a good phone. i had nokia 6300. i used very much its battery life was reduced to 6 hours with continuous browsing.but i don't care just recharge and use again. it hangs many time. i don't care for that also just remove battery and switch on. then what's problem with 5800. iit doesnot hang only if it hang just remove batt. and turn on what will you loose just 30 secs thats all. and battery life is good though i use it very much. then why some people comment badly on this phone? i didn't understand i still use that my old6300 though is has many problem. then why should we hate this special phone just for 1 or 2 problems
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2010plz HELP ME i wanna buy a 5800 bt which is better the xpressmusic or the navigation editio... morehttp://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2537&idPhone2=2906
LISTEN PLEASE!!! its for your own good that if you buy this phone than it is compulsory that you need to buy a very good hard perfomance POUCH! because if you accidently throw it from your hand then the SCREEN (LCD) will die for ever... now dont you guys say that no one Warned you...
Well I have been using this phone for two weeks and i must say its a awesome gadget (only if u know how to use it!, else keep complaining!). Symbian users can know true potentials of this phone. Many useful applications out there.
Version 40.005 is recommended and i dont think its buggy, just hard reset (*#7370#) BEFORE and AFTER upgrade.
Camera pic quality during night can be improved with "night mode" and "flash on"
The ONLY annoying thing i found was OVI maps and other native nokia applications installs directly into phone memory, wiping out a huge 30mb.
Superb phone, been using it for a year, and no hassle watsoeva, and the best part, it has so many apps..;-) nokai 5800 rocks! it really does, recommend anyone to but this phone! thanx nokia for making such a wonderful phone.
thax all of u for positive comments 4 this phone. i have been reading this opinion forum for last one week and found that most of the guys found this phone a worth buy. i m going to buy now.